Apache Kafka vs. TIBCO Messaging

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Apache Kafka
Score 7.7 out of 10
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Apache Kafka is an open-source stream processing platform developed by the Apache Software Foundation written in Scala and Java. The Kafka event streaming platform is used by thousands of companies for high-performance data pipelines, streaming analytics, data integration, and mission-critical applications.N/A
TIBCO Messaging
Score 7.7 out of 10
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TIBCO offers high-performance messaging technology, and gives customers flexibility and unique choice between Commercial and Open-source messaging solutions. TIBCO Messaging is a comprehensive messaging portfolio available to meet a wide variety of use cases and deployment models.N/A
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Apache KafkaTIBCO Messaging
Considered Both Products
Apache Kafka
Chose Apache Kafka
Apache Kafka is built for scale. From high throughput and real-time data streaming, it has a strong advantage over RabbitMQ with its low latency. This put Apache Kafka at the forefront as the platform of choice for large datasets messaging and ensuring scalability when data …
Chose Apache Kafka
It had the clustering functionality and gave tolerance against machine failure.
Chose Apache Kafka
- The biggest advantage of using Apache Kafka is that it is cloud agnostic - It handles super high volume, is fault tolerance, high performance
Chose Apache Kafka
Apache Kafka can work at a higher scale as compared to SQS. It can work with higher size per message and millions of messages per second. Moreover it can be scaled horizontally by adding more brokers to the cluster. SQS is good enough for simple use cases like making a task …
Chose Apache Kafka
I used other messaging/queue solutions that are a lot more basic than Confluent Kafka, as well as another solution that is no longer in the market called Xively, which was bought and "buried" by Google. In comparison, these solutions offer way fewer functionalities and respond …
Chose Apache Kafka
Apache Kafka is open-sourced, scales great has cloud agnostics and performs better than Amazon Kinesis [in my view]. Amazon Kinesis has some limitations and vendor lockin is not something I [like]. With Confluent operators you can easily install it on a kubernetes cluster.
Chose Apache Kafka
We really needed to get away from using a SQL database to act as a queue for processing records, so a new solution was needed. Kafka is a leading software application initially designed for queuing messages which is essentially what we were looking for. It has a great user …
Chose Apache Kafka
Kafka is simple and lower in price.
Chose Apache Kafka
For us, Kafka really doesn't have a 1:1 alternative. We have used ActiveMQ extensively and we still use it as a lighter option for small messages. The situation is similar with Redis - although it could be used like a Kafka alternative, we do use it just as a per-component …
Chose Apache Kafka
Apache Kafka is much more scalable and more reliable. Does not depend on memory, works well on rotational disks and that makes it a cheaper to use solution on low hardware requirements. Running multiple consumers on the same topic can also mean processing the same data again …
Chose Apache Kafka
All stack tech helps our app and system. These technologies allow us to have the data available faster between different regions (due to our particular configuration) and thus the data and processing load of each system is lower. This allows the systems to be used more …
Chose Apache Kafka
We had lots of problems with active mq. That is why we started using Apache Kafka.
Chose Apache Kafka
Kafka is not a real messaging broker implementation as RabbitMQ or TIBCO EMS/JMS are. Although it can be used as messaging, we like the idea behind the Kafka (data isn't "passing by," instead it remains centra, so the client can revisit the data if necessary). This also …
Chose Apache Kafka
Confluent Cloud is still based on Apache Kafka but it has a subscription fee so, from a long term perspective, it is wiser to deploy your own Kafka instance that spans public and private cloud. Amazon Kinesis, Google Cloud Pub/Sub do not do well for a very number of messages …
Chose Apache Kafka
I would only use RabbitMQ over Kafka when you need to have delay queues or tons of small topics/queues around.
I don't know too much about Pulsar - currently evaluating it - but it's supposed to have the same or better throughput while allowing for tons of queues. Stay tuned - I …
Chose Apache Kafka
Kafka is faster and more scalable, also "free" as opensource (albeit we deploy using a commercial distribution). Infrastructure tends to be cheaper. On the other hand, projects must adapt to Kafka APIs that sometimes change and BAU increases until a major 1.x version comes out …
TIBCO Messaging
Chose TIBCO Messaging
TIBCO is an alternate method but does not meet all the needs of cloud -native system.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
We chose TIBCO Messaging not just for its performance but because it looked like the natural way to pave our existing TIBCO Integration architecture. Setting up TIBCO EMS servers and objects seems more straightforward than with most of competitors. It is easy to configure and …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
We also use other messaging products: IBM MQ, especially for integration with other systems (server2server), which has been an industry standard for a long time, and Apache Kafka for cloud-native applications. EMS is a worse option compared to them, but it is still acceptable.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
No real hesitation has this product was natively compatible to make a proper communication between the two TIBCO products we USE (TIBCO Business Works and TIBCO Active Matrix BPM).
Chose TIBCO Messaging
MQ was way more expensive and it is limited in many ways against TIBCO Enterprise Message Service. MQ does not allow easy topic to queue bridging and also requires much more configuration for basic types of activities. Does not support all of the same JMS headers that TIBCO …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
We have both products installed. We prefer on product over the other based on applications requirements.
We have no preferences on these products, we are using both with good results!
Chose TIBCO Messaging
TIBCO is not the industry leader in general but for our unique case and also because we also deployed TIBCO MFT Platform Server, it was the go to choice. The recent improvements like container support also gave us confidence that this is a product for the future. Moving from an …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
TIBCO Enterprise Message Service serves as a "barebone" service in our environment. Some applications use TIBCO Rendezvous, others EMS. This allowed us to evaluate the differences and I saw that EMS is more robust and open to different programming languages. In particular, the …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
IBM MQ was the old product we used, and we migrated from it to TIBCO EMS. We use also RabbitMQ for our light-weight IPC scenarios and Kafka for our data stream use cases. They 3 compose our complete messaging and streaming solution.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
Rabbit is much easier to use and get started with thanks to its online, free, public tutorials and availability of the software on public repositories like Dockerhub, Maven Central, NuGet, etc.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
At the time we made the selection and purchase, we found it to be a performant technology. Also, TIBCO was a young company at that time. In order to have us as ther first major client, they accepted to give us a huge discount on their products, including EMS (that's the main …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
IBM MQ series is a messaging product . You will need to use IBM product suit heavily and it works better but personaly I have not used it. Apache MQ is also a messaging bus and I have come across it with SAP . EMS is light weigh as its written in C language and easy to implement.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
Integration with Tibco BusinessWorks is out of the box.
JMS and JNDI configuration is very easy using the available wizard.
Client configuration is very simple. Capability to validate the connection at design time.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
TIBCO Enterprise Message Service was selected because of the contract with TIBCO. We generally see company buying other TIBCO products such as TIBCO BusinessWorks and then TIBCO offers some discount on their "minor" products.
If I would compare technical capabilities of EMS …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
It is easy to configure, develop, upgrade and maintain using TIBCO Emterprise Message Service compared to other products on the market. Deployment or setup of new environments can be automated. Support from theTIBCO engineering team is very responsive and effective.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
We selected TIBCO EMS because we selected TIBCO BW as an ESB. TIBCO EMS must be installed in the TIBCO BW stack. I prefer TIBCO EMS because it implements very powerful functionality like bridges and routing.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
Tibco EMS was among the top choices after extensive research by our internal R&D team. It was select for performance, scalability, and supportability.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
TIBCO Enterprise Message Service has been chosen by the customer because it had many contracts with TIBCO products and it has been full integrated with a TIBCO BusinessWorks platform. Moreover, TIBCO Enterprise Message Service has all required functionalities searched for the …
Chose TIBCO Messaging
Tibco RendezVous is the underlying technology that makes messaging exchange super fast.
Chose TIBCO Messaging
Better integration with BW, easier to setup and a very good support whereas others lack some of them. Kafka is a threat anyway
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Small Businesses

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Medium-sized Companies
IBM MQ
IBM MQ
Score 9.6 out of 10
Apache Kafka
Apache Kafka
Score 7.7 out of 10
Enterprises
IBM MQ
IBM MQ
Score 9.6 out of 10
Apache Kafka
Apache Kafka
Score 7.7 out of 10
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User Ratings
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Usability
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User Testimonials
Apache KafkaTIBCO Messaging
Likelihood to Recommend
For brokering messages, Confluent Kafka is well suited since it offers a managed solution ready to use. Scenarios where the solution is not very well suited are for example, where pricing is an issue. The solution costs quite a lot for basic usage (for example: for 3 clusters, pricing is above 100k$ a year).
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Organization which uses TIBCO Business Works or TIBCO Business Process Management or TIBCO BPM Enterprise can make use of TIBCO Messaging as it works well with other TIBCO tools. Many TIBCO tools have TIBCO Messaging products bundled as a package along with other TIBCO tools. Use of dynamic topics and queues makes run time processing easier.
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Pros
  • Apache Kafka is able to handle a large number of I/Os (writes) using 3-4 cheap servers.
  • It scales very well over large workloads and can handle extreme-scale deployments (eg. Linkedin with 300 billion user events each day).
  • The same Kafka setup can be used as a messaging bus, storage system or a log aggregator making it easy to maintain as one system feeding multiple applications.
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  • Tibco EMS performs very well, and it meets our stringent performance requirements for corporate messaging backbone.
  • Tibco EMS scales well, and this is another of our stringent requirements.
  • Tibco provides good support for the EMS product, and continues to improve it. This is important as we don't want to use something that does not keep up with the changes in the technology landscape.
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Cons
  • The Kafka Tool is a community-made Java application that looks and feels from the past century.
  • Logging can be confusing. This certainly shows when we have to do troubleshooting.
  • Hybrid scenarios - pub/sub, but there are services in and outside a Kubernetes cluster. Then there are a ~3 options, but only 2 (the harder ones) are production-safe.
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  • A bit of lag time between data sync and the data reaching the server for some of our field sites.
  • It still seems like a niche product for me with little community support. I didn't know about it before working for a company that deployed it.
  • Certain functionality is too complex to setup as compared to other products on the market.
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Likelihood to Renew
Kafka has suited our use case very well so far. Going forward we are planning to expand our platform manifold so the load on Kafka and our reliance on Kafka is going to increase only.
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EMS is a solid system and I see no reason to abandon it, in fact I am eager to see what the next versions will offer and future road maps. Knowing we have support to help us in case of problems is invaluable, both in case of critical issues and to improve overall performance.
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Usability
Apache Kafka is highly recommended to develop loosely coupled, real-time processing applications. Also, Apache Kafka provides property based configuration. Producer, Consumer and broker contain their own separate property file
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Support Rating
Support for Apache Kafka (if willing to pay) is available from Confluent that includes the same time that created Kafka at Linkedin so they know this software in and out. Moreover, Apache Kafka is well known and best practices documents and deployment scenarios are easily available for download. For example, from eBay, Linkedin, Uber, and NYTimes.
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Alternatives Considered
Apache Kafka is built for scale. From high throughput and real-time data streaming, it has a strong advantage over RabbitMQ with its low latency. This put Apache Kafka at the forefront as the platform of choice for large datasets messaging and ensuring scalability when data scale up tremendously. RabbitMQ however has its strengths in traditional messaging. Routing and message delivery reliability are the bedrock of RabbitMQ and this is where RabbitMQ excels. In my previous workplace, RabbitMQ was of choice as reliability matters more than scale. In two words. Apache Kafka for scale, RabbitMQ for reliability. And for cloud deployment and large dataset messaging in what I am doing now, Apache Kafka is the default choice.
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We chose TIBCO Messaging not just for its performance but because it looked like the natural way to pave our existing TIBCO Integration architecture. Setting up TIBCO EMS servers and objects seems more straightforward than with most of competitors. It is easy to configure and easy to use and understand.
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Return on Investment
  • Positive: bursts of traffic on special holidays are easy to handle because Kafka can absorb and buffer all the messages we need to process long enough to let an understaffed set of back-end services catch up on processing. Hard to put a number to it but we probably save $5k a month having fewer machines running.
  • Positive: makes decoupling the web and API services from the deeper back-end services easier by providing topics as an interface. This allowed us to split up our teams and have them develop independently of each other, speeding up software development.
  • Negative: our engineers have made mistakes such as accidentally dropping a few thousand messages due to the CLI being confusing to use, and as a result a customer lost some of their precious data. I'd say that was more our fault than Kafka's though.
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  • Improved developer productivity as TIBCO Enterprise Message Service requires minimal coding
  • Quicker time to market as the configuration / onboarding can be automated with this tool
  • Ability to onboard more clients/consumers as the tool can handle large volumes seamless
  • Improved visibility on the end to end process as the product provides monitoring by using JMS header information
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