Certinia ERP Cloud vs. M1

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Certinia ERP Cloud
Score 5.5 out of 10
N/A
Certinia ERP Cloud automates financial management on the Salesforce platform. The customer-centric ERP software includes a general ledger, automated billing processes, and financial intelligence.N/A
M1
Score 7.1 out of 10
N/A
M1, from ECI Software Solutions headquartered in Ft. Worth, is an all-in-one manufacturing ERP software solution, built for small and medium-sized discrete manufacturers.N/A
Pricing
Certinia ERP CloudM1
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Certinia ERP CloudM1
Free Trial
YesNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Certinia ERP CloudM1
Considered Both Products
Certinia ERP Cloud
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
FinancialForce Subscription & Usage Billing has more features, more useability, and manages higher numbers of customers. The systems I have used in the past are easier to navigate but couldn't handle this number of customers.
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
Infinitely better. We are much happier with FinancialForce ERP rather than Netsuite. This allows us so much more flexibility and growth potential. There is a good chance we will use other functionality of FinancialForce in the future to stay within the same ecosystem. We …
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
FFA is built on the SalesForce platform, giving us one source of data for our KPIs. Unlike Dynamics, FFA allows us to create custom reports and dashboards through which we can share financial results. We were able to better automate and streamline accounts payable using FFA. …
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
NetSuite is much better in that it can produce financial statements, has a subscription module, and is just as customizable as FinancialForce. If you have a midsized company, NetSuite may be better suited for your business needs. FinancialForce requires a lot of in-house …
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
Compared to other accounting software FinancialForce Accounting has its good and bad aspects but overall it is a good option. Reporting directly from FinancialForce Accounting can be difficult to do, but standard accounting tasks are straightforward and not time-consuming to …
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
The initial allure of FinancialForce Accounting was the fact that we were very happy with Salesforce.com and the ability to integrate FinancialForce Accounting with Salesforce.com easily (although it was time-consuming). But after analyzing its functionality it was also …
Chose Certinia ERP Cloud
Outside CPA was strong proponent of Quickbooks and it was evaluated initially, but size of company, complexity of transactions, eventual move to Salesforce and need for multi-company and multicurrency ruled it out almost from the start. As the only accounting system built …
M1
Chose M1
We replaced Open Systems with M1 7 years ago. Our Open Systems software seemed to be more user-friendly and was not overburdened by reports and processes that were not needed for daily functions.
Chose M1
M1 is light years ahead in overall cost and proficiency. It allows so much more control and flexibility as compared to its competitors. When choosing M1 we went through many demos and M1 was the only ERP that met our needs and still does. We also control our own data which is a …
Chose M1
M1 is better with the manufacturing side of software whereas Sage 100 is better at the financial side. Which is frustrating that M1 implementation people are not accountants, so they got us up and running but did not do a good job of making sure the GL accounts were setup …
Chose M1
Our customization requirements were not that high and based on a price/cost benefit M1 was the winner. SAP was considered but the upfront costs and challenging learning curve together with the lack of flexibility in the SAP HANA public cloud version made the M1 choice more …
Chose M1
We considered several other option but M1 was presented as the most flexible and robust option that could handle our custom manufacturing.
Chose M1
We looked at a couple of other software programs, but none of them could compare to M1 and the ease of using the software.
Chose M1
M1 does a good job of being able to handle our requirements. Some of our assemblies and sub-assemblies require a significant amount of detail and different levels in order to complete - and M1 handles that. Some of the other products I've used, or implemented else where fall …
Chose M1
This has been very similar to SYSPRO bit the team at ECI has been far more helpful.
Features
Certinia ERP CloudM1
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.4
Ratings
16% above category average
M1
5.7
Ratings
23% below category average
Pay calculation8.50 Ratings5.30 Ratings
Benefit plan administration8.00 Ratings4.60 Ratings
Direct deposit files9.00 Ratings7.10 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.4
Ratings
10% above category average
M1
7.1
Ratings
7% below category average
API for custom integration8.80 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Plug-ins8.00 Ratings6.60 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.4
Ratings
3% above category average
M1
8.1
Ratings
1% below category average
Single sign-on capability8.60 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Role-based user permissions8.10 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
7.9
Ratings
9% above category average
M1
6.6
Ratings
9% below category average
Dashboards8.40 Ratings6.70 Ratings
Standard reports6.50 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Custom reports8.80 Ratings6.60 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
7.9
Ratings
2% above category average
M1
6.9
Ratings
11% below category average
Accounts payable8.00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Accounts receivable7.10 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Global Financial Support8.00 Ratings5.30 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers7.00 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations6.30 Ratings6.50 Ratings
Configurable Accounting7.40 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Standardized Processes8.70 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
10.0
Ratings
23% above category average
M1
7.1
Ratings
11% below category average
Inventory tracking10.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Automatic reordering10.00 Ratings6.60 Ratings
Location management10.00 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.1
Ratings
3% above category average
M1
7.4
Ratings
6% below category average
Pricing8.00 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Order entry8.00 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Credit card processing8.50 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Cost of goods sold8.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Order Orchestration00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.7
Ratings
15% above category average
M1
6.5
Ratings
14% below category average
Travel & Expense Management10.00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting7.00 Ratings5.00 Ratings
Billing Management00 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management00 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Period Close00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
9.3
Ratings
20% above category average
M1
-
Ratings
Budgeting and Forecasting9.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Costing9.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost Capture10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.2
Ratings
18% above category average
M1
5.3
Ratings
26% below category average
Project Planning and Scheduling7.00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers7.00 Ratings5.40 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality8.00 Ratings4.60 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools8.00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
2.7
Ratings
94% below category average
Award Lifecycle Management00 Ratings2.70 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
6.3
Ratings
9% below category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared00 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Contract Authoring00 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Contract Repository00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Supplier Management00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
5.0
Ratings
26% below category average
Risk Repository00 Ratings6.50 Ratings
Control Management00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Issue Detection00 Ratings3.80 Ratings
Remediation and Certification00 Ratings3.90 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
4.0
Ratings
50% below category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization00 Ratings2.20 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management00 Ratings2.50 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management00 Ratings4.70 Ratings
Fulfillment Management00 Ratings4.90 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management00 Ratings5.50 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
6.6
Ratings
12% below category average
Production Process Design00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Production Management00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Configuration Management00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Work Execution00 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs00 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
5.6
Ratings
24% below category average
Forecasting00 Ratings4.70 Ratings
Inventory Planning00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Performance Monitoring00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Certinia ERP Cloud
-
Ratings
M1
4.4
Ratings
47% below category average
Proposal Management00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Product Master Data Management00 Ratings4.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Certinia ERP CloudM1
Likelihood to Recommend
6.0
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7.3
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Likelihood to Renew
10.0
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10.0
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Usability
10.0
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6.5
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Availability
10.0
(0 ratings)
-
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Performance
9.0
(0 ratings)
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Support Rating
10.0
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10.0
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Online Training
10.0
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
10.0
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Certinia ERP CloudM1
Likelihood to Recommend
FFA is a good product if you want the ability to customize functionality and reporting. However, all the setup can be overwhelming if you are looking for an out-of-the-box solution. FFA is a great choice is you are already using Salesforce and want to report on KPIs directly from the source data. There are a lot of applications to help you feed data into the system or export it out in a usable format.
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Implementation is by far the weakest link in the ECI/M1 process. Although the tool is powerful, the client is expected to drive the process of learning the tool, planning the meetings with consultants, identifying risks and making mitigation plans, etc. without any samples, guidance or assistance on the part of ECI. The tool is best suited to high volume, standard product manufacturers who build to inventory or to order without much variation. The shop floor routing and time tracking are straightforward if you can master the convoluted Unit Of Measure calculations. The tool is either hosted locally or accessed through Remote Desktop. Shop floor is web enabled but the main desktop for M1 is still a relay which makes connectivity a potential issue. Moving this platform to a truly web hosted environment would substantially improve connectivity and eliminate compatibility issues with Apple products
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Pros
  • Comprehensive spreadsheets and dashboards with filtering functions.
  • Ease of file upload and conversion to and from Excel.
  • The overall spread of the homepage makes for easy access to whatever information you're looking for.
  • I believe FFA has a tremendous ability to data easy to access by all departments, but also is complex enough to retrieve specific data that is needed.
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  • Manage inventory counts. Good precision on quantities in and out, through shipping, MI, MR, and receipts.
  • Job costing shows great details on labor, operations, and materials to be used. I wished that would do better in outside operations that would return, but we still think it is great.
  • Ability to track changes (changelog), showing all changes that had in a particular place. Such as where, when, and by whom a line item unit price was changed in a PO.
  • Link, traceability, keeping history. If done correctly, it is amazing to keep the history of a part/lot.
  • The amount of user rights/customization is unbelievable. It can be hard to set up in the beginning, but it is great that you can give some very specific access to a user, and it is not (in general) as a package.
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Cons
  • It took a very very long time to implement and we had configuration issues after the implementation that had to be addressed.
  • Cannot run scheduled reports.
  • Difficult to run reports (training is needed to configure the reports).
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  • Some of the functions are pretty detailed - and so they take a while to generate screens and pages in reports.
  • We actually use it for 2 companies we own - and it would be nice if the inter company communication was a little smoother. It's hard to share some data, and not everything is possible to be shared.
  • Customized reports need to backed up before any updates to M1 or they're lost. It seems M1 overwrites the report folders everytime you run an update - so you have to keep track of what you've changed in Crystal Reports and restore it.
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Likelihood to Renew
The company has now converted its legacy, "home grown" operations system and built it on the force.com platform, and the integration between it and FinancialForce is deeply entrenched. No other application would be able to replicate this functionality, and the company will be able to scale and leverage the force.com platform as it grows.
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Usability
Change management is always an issue, but the evidence of the application's usability is that both long-time employees (used to the legacy systems for many years) and newer employees have been able to learn the system and improve their business processes.
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Because it would be helpful if ECI would provide better documentation, communication and workflows to understand how each field interacts within the system and how each of those touch other areas within M1. It would also be useful if ECI would provide prescheduled training for how to customize things with M1 through Design Studio
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Reliability and Availability
Unless the internet is completely unavailable - which has not happened yet - the application is always accessible. Since FinancialForce is built on the force.com platform, it's uptime is tied to Salesforce security and system performance standards
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Performance
If Visualforce pages are enabled, they sometimes slow down the load time.
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Support Rating
The response time for FinancialForce is exemplary. Immediate acknowledgement of the support request by automatically logging a case/ticket on the provider side, then less than 24-hour follow up by a support team member with specific questions, information or resolution for the issue.
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Support has been great and timely
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Online Training
Through its Xtra login website available to its customers, FinancialForce offers a complete set of online, video tutorials, training and documentation. Each tutorial is "bite-sized", meaning it imparts instructional, step-by-step information in 2-3 minute narrated videos. For a particular cycle or process, like invoices to payments for example, each tutorial builds on the last so that the user can get a complete picture of the steps and process in less than 10 minutes.
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Implementation Rating
The company decided to run parallel for three months in order to soften the impact of the change from the legacy "system" - which users had been interfacing with for over a decade - to FinancialForce. While not recommended, this did provide time for the in-house "super user" team of 2 people to become completely familiar with the application, and thus provide hands-on training and be a resource for the users who would be processing the daily accounting transactions.
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Alternatives Considered
FinancialForce Subscription & Usage Billing has more features, more useability, and manages higher numbers of customers. The systems I have used in the past are easier to navigate but couldn't handle this number of customers.
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Our customization requirements were not that high and based on a price/cost benefit M1 was the winner. SAP was considered but the upfront costs and challenging learning curve together with the lack of flexibility in the SAP HANA public cloud version made the M1 choice more natural. SAP Services is usually more expensive compared to M1.
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Return on Investment
  • We moved to a subscription business, and FinancialForce cannot facilitate it. After using FinancialForce for 4 years, we had to switch to NetSuite. We had a negative return on investment with all the resources we used to do in-house development in FnancialForce.
  • FinancialForce did not have a good way to match payments against invoices, and it was a very manual process. We spent a lot of human hours to get it done.
  • It was still relatively cheap, so for the 4 years that we used it, the actual cost of the product was what we could only afford at the time.
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  • Time savings having to only enter certain information once and have it follow through the entire order process from quote to cash
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