Ridder iQ vs. Epicor Eclipse

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Ridder iQ
Score 7.8 out of 10
N/A
Ridder iQ is a manufacturing ERP, from ECI Software Solutions. Ridder iQ includes customer relationship management functionality that is fully integrated, and includes an integration with Outlook for email.N/A
Epicor Eclipse
Score 7.0 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Eclipse is an end-to-end business system for wholesale distributors, as well as electrical, HVAC, plumbing and PVF businesses. Eclipse simplifies complex distribution processes found in today’s dynamic supply chains.N/A
Pricing
Ridder iQEpicor Eclipse
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Ridder iQEpicor Eclipse
Free Trial
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Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Ridder iQEpicor Eclipse
Considered Both Products
Ridder iQ
Chose Ridder iQ
Ridder IQ is a system for production facilities. It is a good tool. However, there are not enough possibilities for CRM, finance, and MRP planning. At our company, we use Ridder as the main ERP package, and we do need further functionality in CRM and visibility in MRP planning.
Chose Ridder iQ
Ridder iQ is more suited for a company which operates in a production environment.

Dutch Translation: Ridder iQ is meer geschikt voor een bedrijf dat in een productieomgeving werkt.
Chose Ridder iQ
Odoo has broader functionality but its functionality is not deeper. The PLM functionality of Odoo is not really CAD PLM but only BOM management. Ridder iQ is very easy in small customizations and bigger customization is also possible but with programming. Ridder iQ has a good …
Chose Ridder iQ
We use scansys for automating the invoices and this works great.

Dutch Translation: Wij gebruiken Scansys om de facturen te automatiseren en dit werkt geweldig.
Chose Ridder iQ
CASH was only financial system and was repurposed as planning for us. But lacks alot of functionality Ridder iQ gives us now.

Dutch Translation: CASH was oorspronkelijk een financieel systeem en werd voor ons omgebouwd tot planningssysteem. Maar het mist veel van de …
Chose Ridder iQ
Ridder iQ is specialized for our business and has people who bring a lot of knowledge to the table, so Ridder iQ is far more suited than a ERP solution which is not specilized in the make-industry. Furthermore, the customizability of Ridder stands out compared to solutions like …
Chose Ridder iQ
I used unit4 in a previous organization, this system has far fewer options and I don't think it was suitable for Biron.

Dutch Translation: Ik heb Unit4 gebruikt in een vorige organisatie, dit systeem heeft veel minder opties en ik denk niet dat het geschikt was voor Biron
Chose Ridder iQ
Ridder iQ has better inventory module than Exact Globe+

Dutch Translation: Ridder iQ heeft een betere inventarismodule dan Exact Globe+
Chose Ridder iQ
Ridder iQ is good for small to midsize companies. The cost are way better than other ERP.

Dutch Translation: Ridder iQ is geschikt voor kleine tot middelgrote bedrijven. De kosten zijn veel gunstiger dan bij andere ERP-systemen.
Chose Ridder iQ
Ridder iQ was a better fit for our (production) company than Microsoft Dynamics.

Dutch Translation: Ridder iQ paste beter bij ons (productie)bedrijf dan Microsoft Dynamics.
Epicor Eclipse
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but …
Chose Epicor Eclipse
There aren't any better industry specific ones, but I have looked at Dynamics 365, SAP, Odoo, and others to see if a more robust, configurable, ERP could be customized to suit our industry. Not yet, but the balance is tipping away from Eclipse.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
The first company that I worked for in the wholesale industry had an in house ERP. This ERP, I thought at the time was really great. When I started using e-term, I realized that my first experience of an ERP was not as strong as it could have been.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Since we have been on Eclipse for 13 years, our only comparison to other business systems is when training new employees and ask those new users their opinions during training. In general, nearly all new users of Solar Eclipse are impressed by the ease of use, ease of …
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Been using Eclipse for almost 20 years. It would take something major to make us look elsewhere.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Epicor Eclipse was here when I started 2 years ago. SAP and Great Plains were used at previous employers. Epicor Eclipse versus the others, I would say that Eclipse has the edge in terms of the learning curve for new employees because of how easy it is to use. However, it is …
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Eclipse is more user friendly
Features
Ridder iQEpicor Eclipse
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
6.0
Ratings
23% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
Ratings
5% below category average
API for custom integration6.10 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Plug-ins5.80 Ratings6.70 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
7.9
Ratings
3% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
7.8
Ratings
5% below category average
Single sign-on capability7.70 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Role-based user permissions8.10 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
7.3
Ratings
1% above category average
Epicor Eclipse
6.6
Ratings
9% below category average
Dashboards7.00 Ratings6.70 Ratings
Standard reports6.40 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Custom reports8.40 Ratings6.90 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
6.4
Ratings
19% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
Ratings
7% below category average
Accounts payable6.70 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Accounts receivable6.80 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Global Financial Support5.90 Ratings7.10 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers6.20 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations6.70 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Configurable Accounting6.40 Ratings8.30 Ratings
Standardized Processes6.20 Ratings6.70 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
6.2
Ratings
24% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
7.1
Ratings
11% below category average
Inventory tracking6.30 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Automatic reordering7.10 Ratings6.70 Ratings
Location management5.30 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
7.6
Ratings
3% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
7.4
Ratings
6% below category average
Pricing7.90 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Order entry7.70 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Cost of goods sold7.30 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Order Orchestration7.60 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Credit card processing00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
5.7
Ratings
27% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
Ratings
4% below category average
Billing Management7.40 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management6.10 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management4.80 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting4.70 Ratings6.10 Ratings
Period Close5.60 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
5.5
Ratings
23% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
6.4
Ratings
8% below category average
Project Planning and Scheduling5.00 Ratings6.60 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers6.10 Ratings5.70 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools5.40 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality00 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
5.2
Ratings
29% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
6.1
Ratings
13% below category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared4.90 Ratings5.10 Ratings
Contract Authoring5.10 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Contract Repository4.20 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated5.90 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Supplier Management6.00 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
4.8
Ratings
30% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
4.5
Ratings
37% below category average
Risk Repository4.50 Ratings2.70 Ratings
Control Management5.30 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments4.80 Ratings4.50 Ratings
Issue Detection4.70 Ratings4.10 Ratings
Remediation and Certification00 Ratings3.80 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
6.3
Ratings
6% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
4.9
Ratings
31% below category average
Transportation Execution Management6.40 Ratings4.20 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management6.30 Ratings4.10 Ratings
Transportation Planning and Optimization00 Ratings4.30 Ratings
Fulfillment Management00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
7.6
Ratings
2% above category average
Epicor Eclipse
5.0
Ratings
39% below category average
Production Process Design8.00 Ratings4.50 Ratings
Production Management7.40 Ratings5.70 Ratings
Configuration Management7.80 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Work Execution7.50 Ratings5.40 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs7.20 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
6.2
Ratings
14% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
5.7
Ratings
22% below category average
Forecasting6.20 Ratings6.10 Ratings
Inventory Planning6.50 Ratings6.60 Ratings
Performance Monitoring5.90 Ratings5.60 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
6.1
Ratings
16% below category average
Epicor Eclipse
6.2
Ratings
14% below category average
Proposal Management5.70 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Product Master Data Management6.40 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
-
Ratings
Epicor Eclipse
8.5
Ratings
17% above category average
Pay calculation00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Direct deposit files00 Ratings8.70 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
-
Ratings
Epicor Eclipse
5.7
Ratings
29% below category average
Budgeting and Forecasting00 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Project Costing00 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Cost Capture00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Capital Project Management00 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Ridder iQ
-
Ratings
Epicor Eclipse
8.0
Ratings
7% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Ridder iQEpicor Eclipse
Likelihood to Recommend
7.8
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4.7
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Likelihood to Renew
6.4
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4.3
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Usability
7.0
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7.3
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Availability
-
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9.1
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Performance
-
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9.1
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Support Rating
6.0
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5.5
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In-Person Training
-
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9.1
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Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
8.2
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
5.0
(0 ratings)
4.5
(0 ratings)
Configurability
-
(0 ratings)
4.5
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
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4.5
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
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4.5
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
-
(0 ratings)
8.2
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Vendor pre-sale
-
(0 ratings)
7.3
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Ridder iQEpicor Eclipse
Likelihood to Recommend
The best in the complete production process. It provides the correct info in a very usable way. It is pretty good in sales, but the lack of discounts for sales goods and sales production is not ideal. On the other hand, ECI provides an excellent service for looking for custom solutions where we need them. Dutch Translation: De beste in het complete productieproces. Het biedt de juiste informatie op een zeer bruikbare manier. Het is redelijk goed in de verkoop, maar het gebrek aan kortingen op verkoopartikelen en verkoopproductie is niet ideaal. Aan de andere kant biedt ECI een uitstekende service bij het zoeken naar maatwerkoplossingen waar we die nodig hebben. This review was originally written in English and has been translated into Dutch using a third-party translation tool. While we strive for accuracy, some nuances or meanings may not be perfectly captured.
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For medium (with growing pains!) organizations, Epicor's Eclipse software would be a great distribution and point of sale software solution and competes well with other software solutions out there. For large distributors Epicor's custom programming has the ability to tailor their software to customers exact need. I feel the cost of the system would be prohibitive to smaller distributors.
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Pros
  • Flexibility in setting budgets for specific parts of a project
  • Insight in costs (journaldetails)(bookkeeping, however not Ridder financials)
  • Sending out offers and order confirmation
  • sending out purchase orders
  • Flexibiliteit bij het vaststellen van budgetten voor specifieke onderdelen van een project
  • Inzicht in kosten (journaalgegevens) (boekhouding, echter geen Ridder financials)
  • Het versturen van offertes en orderbevestigingen
  • het versturen van inkooporders
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  • Great for retail sales and it works well with ipads, scanners, credit card machines and was easy to implement.
  • Initial support, setting up Eclipse and ensuring that everything works correctly was a huge benefit. We were off running from the start.
  • Epicor has continuing education on its products and offers alternatives for things they cant do.
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Cons
  • The ability to copy item lines from receipts to a BOM
  • Adding photos to comment blocks in quotes makes the system slow. The photos are added in full size instead of asking for a small version.
  • De mogelijkheid om artikelregels van ontvangsten naar een stuklijst te kopiëren
  • Het toevoegen van foto's aan commentaarblokken tussen aanhalingstekens maakt het systeem traag. De foto's worden op volledige grootte toegevoegd in plaats van dat er om een ​​kleine versie wordt gevraagd.
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  • Their support has gotten worse over the years. They fired a large portion of staff in favor of cheaper new hires. It is getting slowly better over time as their support people are gaining experience, but decades of institutional knowledge was lost. Response time can vary wildly depending, which is troubling when you have an immediate need. They have made a partial mea culpa, but the situation is not fully remedied.
  • The user interface is clunky. The original interface, E-term, is a terminal based system (think DOS). A few years ago they rebuilt it using Java and called the new interface Solar, which is a more point and click, windows friendly version. Solar is slower, and so has been difficult for us to get the user adoption we've needed. In addition, any customization we do doesn't work in Solar. Now they have announced a new road-map to make it all web-based. Good luck to them, but it seems they spend all their time playing catch-up instead of making deep system improvements.
  • There are significant gaps in what Eclipse is able to do. Sometimes there are third party products (Proof of Delivery, E-commerce, Tax, etc.), and sometimes Epicor offers in house solutions (Job Management, EDI, etc.). In either case, there are a string of products we have to integrate and maintain to make Eclipse functional. Most of them require support contracts, and have varying degrees of support.
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Likelihood to Renew
Its nice software but it is very, very slow in webification and integration possibilities by using api's. Untill now the programm has client-server technology unfortunately. And there are far too less no code adjustments possible.
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I use it every day and can't see a reason why I would stop unless I started a new job. If I were to leave my present position, the new job would be much more attractive if they were Eclipse users.
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Usability
Ridder iQ is friendly to use. With the use of roles we can give a very good user experience to our employees; they are more in control of their tasks. Since we use Ridder iQ, the right information is available for everybody in our organization, all on demand. Dutch Translation: Ridder iQ is gebruiksvriendelijk. Door rollen te gebruiken, kunnen we onze medewerkers een zeer goede gebruikerservaring bieden; ze hebben meer controle over hun taken. Sinds we Ridder iQ gebruiken, is de juiste informatie voor iedereen binnen onze organisatie beschikbaar, direct beschikbaar.
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This is very easy to use for someone that hasn't ever used the system before. Despite any preconceived notions about how a system should function they can learn this and become efficient with really not a lot of effort. I have used many systems and this is probably one of the easiest I have ever had to learn to navigate and use.
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Reliability and Availability
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I haven't experienced any outages in the two years I have been using the system. It is always available as long as the computer is up. The only time I have seen it not be available was on occasions where we lost internet, or power and then we lost access to everything, not just Epicor Eclipse.
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Performance
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Everything in this system moves fairly quickly, that may be in part because we are a small company with only 21 users on the system at a time, or it may just be a the way the Epicor Eclipse works for any size company with any number of users. I can only speak for what I know and say that it is fast for our purposes.
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Support Rating
Expert level of the support engineers is adequate. However in our opinion it does take a fair amount of time to respond
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The tier 1 support is trying, and sometimes they are successful. Sometimes they aren't. This topic isn't as black and white as the questions might suggest. Currently their Tier 1 support team is over seas, all items automatically go to Tier 1 and then when they can't help they either escalate it or tell me they need to check with someone else and they will get back to me. If they escalate me to Tier 2, then the issue comes back to the States and the support is usually at a higher knowledge/experience level and it can get resolved fairly quickly. If they don't escalate, then it might take weeks and multiple follow ups on my part before I either get a satisfactory resolution or finally get escalated.
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In-Person Training
No answers on this topic
The training classes that I have attended have been top notch. The presenters are extremely knowledgeable on their subject matter, including real-world application of the system. They aren't just software techs training end users, they seem to be end users that have become experts in the over functionality and capabilities of the system.
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Online Training
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The on-line training is very good, and it is taught by the same people that do the live in-person training sessions. The difficult part of it is, asking questions about your specific company's nuances or special circumstances. I don't remember if you can access the on-line training sessions after you have taken them for reminders purposes, but if so that is a great asset.
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Implementation Rating
I didn't work here yet at the time of the implementation
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I don't really know about the implementation, it was back in 1998 and I didn't start here until 2016. By the time I started here they had been running it for a number of years and most of the people that were here when it was implemented are no longer here, and the ones that are don't really have much to say about how the implementation went either bad or good.
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Alternatives Considered
Ridder iQ is specialized for our business and has people who bring a lot of knowledge to the table, so Ridder iQ is far more suited than a ERP solution which is not specilized in the make-industry. Furthermore, the customizability of Ridder stands out compared to solutions like ISAH. Therefore, the choice was an easy one, because knowledge and customizability are important criteria. Dutch Translation: Ridder iQ is gespecialiseerd in onze branche en heeft mensen met veel kennis in huis. Ridder iQ is daarom veel geschikter dan een ERP-oplossing, die niet gespecialiseerd is in de maakindustrie. Bovendien onderscheidt Ridder iQ zich qua aanpasbaarheid ten opzichte van oplossingen zoals ISAH. De keuze was dan ook snel gemaakt, want kennis en aanpasbaarheid zijn belangrijke criteria.
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Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but Prophet 21 is going to get you there much quicker and with the kind of insight into your business that will help you thrive.
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Scalability
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I don't really know about the scalability. It's the same as it was when I started, I do know that you can buy more user licenses, but I think they come in packs of 5, which can be a problem if you only need 1 and will never use the other 4. But, again I'm not sure on that.
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Return on Investment
  • Implement the business rules and forces them to be applied
  • SDK is used 90% for managing all order inputs and product BOM
  • The software tends to come to an halt for changes for on premise which is required of you have software/machines communicating to/from the ERP
  • Implementeer de bedrijfsregels en zorg ervoor dat ze worden toegepast
  • SDK wordt voor 90% gebruikt voor het beheren van alle orderinputs en product-BOM
  • De software loopt vaak vast bij wijzigingen voor on-premises, wat vereist dat u software/machines hebt die met het ERP communiceren
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  • Reporting features allow tracking items trending downward which can glut inventory space and dollars if not adjusted
  • GMROI reports help analyze turn ratios and adjusted dollar values and margins of product lines.
  • Suggested Purchase Order features allowed controlled inventory purchases which avoid lost sales while managing overall dollars invested in an acquired product with the lowest freight costs possible.
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ScreenShots

Ridder iQ Screenshots

Screenshot of Ridder IQ combines the knowledge and practical experience gained since 1982 and is built on the latest software techniques such as .NET, C# and Microsoft SQL.Screenshot of Ridder IQ includes a complete CRM system with integration to Exchange and Outlook, purchase, sales, stock and time administration, as well as document management systems, integrated report designer and an authorization system.