Dynatrace vs. IBM Cloud Pak for Applications

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Dynatrace
Score 8.0 out of 10
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Dynatrace is an APM scaled for enterprises with cloud, on-premise, and hybrid application and SaaS monitoring. Dynatrace uses AI-supported algorithms to provide continual APM self-learning and predictive alerts for proactive issue resolution.
$0
per synthetic request
IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Score 7.2 out of 10
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IBM Cloud Pak® for Applications (CP4Apps) is an end-to-end hybrid cloud application platform, providing flexibility for deployments, building new cloud-native applications, refactoring and re-platforming existing applications. Designed to leverage a collection of application runtimes, modernization tools and a Kubernetes container platform to adapt to their landscape needs.N/A
Pricing
DynatraceIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Editions & Modules
Synthetic Monitoring
$0.001
per synthetic request
Kubernetes Platform Monitoring
$0.002
per hour for any size pod
Real User Monitoring
$0.00225
per session
Application Security
$0.018
per hour for 8 GIB host
Infrastructure Monitoring
$0.04
per hour for any size host
Full-Stack Monitoring
$0.08
per hour for 8 GIB host
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
DynatraceIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
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User Ratings
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Likelihood to Recommend
8.0
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7.2
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Likelihood to Renew
9.0
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Usability
7.9
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Availability
8.2
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Performance
7.3
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Support Rating
8.2
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In-Person Training
8.2
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Online Training
8.2
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Implementation Rating
7.9
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Configurability
7.3
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Ease of integration
7.3
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Product Scalability
7.3
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Vendor post-sale
8.2
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Vendor pre-sale
8.2
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User Testimonials
DynatraceIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Likelihood to Recommend
Dynatrace is well suited to a number of tasks. It is important to determine who the end users are and gather good information to tailor their experience accordingly. For instance, business/marketing should not have access to some of the more technical data, and business metrics can be a distraction for IT operations personnel.
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IBM Cloud Pak for Applications is clearly suitable for modernizing the WebSphere runtime from the heavy, complex and expensive WAS-ND, and to a lesser extent WAS-base, to the super simple, fast and lightweight WebSphere Liberty runtime. I guarantee, once you start using Liberty you'll never look back. Enough cannot be said about how awesome Transformation Advisor is. The output analysis it produces, along with the migration plan and associated artifacts, considerably simplifies both the decision-making process surrounding modernization and subsequent implementation. Without TA we would've made bad decisions by blindly picking unsuitable apps for moving from WAS to Liberty. Using the results from TA we've excluded multiple WAS apps from our immediate plans to migrate to Liberty, saving time and effort that probably would have resulted in a failed migration. We recently used Transformation Advisor to help us successfully migrate an app from Tomcat to WebSphere Liberty. We needed to make some changes to the Tomcat app, but TA helped highlight these required changes. Without TA I'm not sure we would have succeeded.
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Pros
  • We loved Dynatrace's ability to show the data flow - from the front end points through the back end points straight to the database and various API's. It was advanced in its data visualization. This is useful for debugging - showing when/where the errors are. It can even enable non-technical individuals in the corporation to help debug
  • Dynatrace has some great highly customizable integration options as well as monitoring. You can configure your layout & integration options to create custom monitoring alerts for your applications performance. Further you can increase the extensibility of using a REST API on your architecture.
  • Some advanced dev-ops systems are utilizing Kubernetes/docker aswell as Node.JS - Dynatrace was able to log and help understand all of our dev-ops needs. It gave us native alerts based off of deviations from the baseline that we set during initial configuration. These metrics are priceless.
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  • WebSphere Liberty for lighter footprint
  • Transformation Advisor
  • Mono2Micro
  • Customer can benefit from their investment by optimizing license offerings in IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
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Cons
  • Dynatrace does not monitor easily on AIX OS.
  • Dynatrace does not monitor easily on a C-based application.
  • The way DPGR is addressed by Dynatrace is not very complete, and not clear. One thing is to mask the IP and request attributes but is not enough, the replay session feature is great but raises serious questions about user tracking.
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  • While the licensing is considerably simplified than it used to be, I still find it somewhat confusing. For example, WebSphere Liberty Core has an 8:1 VPC ratio. This is clear when dealing with VMs but it is still not clear to me as to whether we get an 8:1 ratio when running on OpenShift or whether we need to purchase additional OpenShift licenses to support running WebSphere Liberty Core in OpenShift.
  • Not so much related to IBM Cloud Pak for Applications, but while Transformation Advisor is an indispensable tool to help modernize to the WebSphere Liberty runtime, I wish we could run it against WebSphere Liberty itself. The reason being, we are now using TA as a single repository for our configurations. TA also highlights many potential issues when migrating to Liberty; these issues may also be applicable for apps already running in Liberty, we just don't know it yet.
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Likelihood to Renew
We have got tremendous support and response from the dynatrace support team as well as the larger community. We still have issues like the lack of role based administration, but we are told that it may be coming in a future release. The team is very supportive and has assisted us in several tough situations.
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Usability
Dynatrace is great to use once you understand how to use it correctly and get used to the layout of it. While I do not actively use it every day, whenever I do use it, I do have to get refamiliarized with it. However, once you have your dashboards setup correctly with the data that you want to see when you first login to Dynatrace, it's amazing.
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Reliability and Availability
Our environment, it never goes down therefore is always available.
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Performance
We have not seen where it does slow down an application.
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Support Rating
I wish I could have given the ten points but based on my experience in past I am reducing by two points as the penalty. But I am sure that it will have improved in the past few months. They need some improvement on ticket handling. Overall I appreciate some of the support folks who responded quickly and also were ready to jump on the Webex and get the problem understood to fix it.
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In-Person Training
We did both online and in house training - they used our system so it made more sense.
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Online Training
The training was done on our time and with our system.
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Implementation Rating
Using Dynatrace support services to assist (and lead) the implementation was extremely important.
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Alternatives Considered
Like I mentioned earlier, Dynatrace is a great tool but comes with a heavy price tag. On the other hand, Foglight offers a slightly lower level of expertise in application monitoring but fulfils almost all the requirements you would commonly have. The only major feature lacking in Foglight is the predictive monitoring feature. If you are an SME struggling with budgets, then predictive monitoring is something you can certainly live without.
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Our customer mission-critical core banking applications like Temenos T24 run on best of the breed IBM WebSphere Application Server which is java based-application server. IBM has kept up the promise of providing support, fixpack, and any update. As far as I know, at least by 2030, IBM is committed to continue with WHE which gives customers confidence in their current investments.
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Scalability
Dynatrace can be used to monitor may software tools
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Return on Investment
  • Thanks to Dynatrace we have been able to effectively challenge and collaborate with service providers and outsourced IT teams.
  • Thanks to Dynatrace we have reduced MTTR on troubleshooting by a magnitude of four.
  • The performance analyses our team has done with Dynatrace earned us trust among management, business teams, and IT teams.
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  • Increased Development Efficiency
  • Cost Reduction in Infrastructure Management
  • Enhanced Application Performance and Reliability
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