IBM Cloud Pak for Applications vs. TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Score 7.2 out of 10
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IBM Cloud Pak® for Applications (CP4Apps) is an end-to-end hybrid cloud application platform, providing flexibility for deployments, building new cloud-native applications, refactoring and re-platforming existing applications. Designed to leverage a collection of application runtimes, modernization tools and a Kubernetes container platform to adapt to their landscape needs.N/A
TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
Score 8.9 out of 10
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TIBCO Integration is used to connect diverse business solutions, data sources, and devices into a single, seamless system.N/A
Pricing
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Free Trial
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Free/Freemium Version
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Premium Consulting/Integration Services
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Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeOptional
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Community Pulse
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IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Chose IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
Our customer mission-critical core banking applications like Temenos T24 run on best of the breed IBM WebSphere Application Server which is java based-application server. IBM has kept up the promise of providing support, fixpack, and any update. As far as I know, at least by …
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Comparing IBM Cloud Pak for Applications against alternatives highlights its distinct advantages. Its robust support for hybrid and multi-cloud environments enables unmatched flexibility in application deployment, crucial for businesses seeking to leverage various cloud …
TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
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Management Decision.
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Provide technical support: Respond to customer inquiries and issues related to TIBCO software products via phone, email, or support tickets. Troubleshoot and resolve technical problems to ensure customer satisfaction. Testing and validation: Assist customers in testing and …
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I'd feel like it's not as user friendly as some other paid options and it could definitely improve. I also think that if they focused on improving the replication/synchonization function to create the niche market, it would be very beneficial.
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Azure Data Factory is a complete ETL/ELT program. I'm not sure if TIBCO is that comprehensive in its functionality.
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Tibco Cloud Integration is a comphrensive platform with good flexibility and scalability rather than selecting single products with predetermided licences and infrastructure
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User friendly implementation and familiar for people worked in other BW versions ,
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We have made a global benchmark of the different tools in the market. An after an important study we have chose BW as it was the most appropriated tool for our nerfs and also in our enterprise catalog.
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Used TIBCO for migration of our data for our learning management system.TIBCO, succesful Content ,data migration(courses, classes, registrations, transcripts etc.) ,User migration(Internal users and Partner migration)and Report migrationIntegrations with different applications …
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TIBCO Cloud Integration is relatively poor and underdeveloped. Requires a java developer to be able to use it competently.
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Scribe bridges the gap between all of our systems, it's imperative to us in that regard. I'm sure there are alternatives, but overall Scribe has served our needs well and created very little down time or issues in general, so I'm inclined to recommend it based on the …
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Scribe would be easier to use for a non-technical user and perhaps support from vendors might be easier. For complexity, I would use the other tools.
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From a performance perspective, TIBCO BusinessWorks can handle much higher loads compared to MuleSoft.
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We selected Scribe on the recommendation of our VAR.
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With Scribe Online, we were able to deliver the solution to our client much faster for one of the Dynamics 365/CRM project. Informatica had its own share of challenges, especially around the learning curve for the tool and also the performance and monitoring aspect. With Scribe …
Chose TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
TIBCO Rendezvous interfaces with TIBCO BusinessWorks because it is used as a communication bus, with the core business system used for manufacturing processes.
Using TIBCO Rendezvous, through the sending and receiving of messages, the integration of the different types of …
Chose TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
Easiest to implement, best integration for dynamics, and easy to map data.
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They keep trying to sell us Flogo through their training webinars it seems. I can't find the value in it. I'd rather have more webinars focus on scribe and its capabilities.
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MS SQL is great, but not everyone is a SQL database administrator. That means maintaining integration maps and paths is difficult. Tibco Cloud Integration provides a way for non-developers to integrate data between many of their systems. Maintaining now turns into a …
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We selected Scribe as it has many features and integration capabilities with many other software.
Chose TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
No other products. Previously users used data loader to mass insert but it took a while to reformat the CSV before using data loader. Scribe is able to map those fields correctly with the hit of a button.
Features
IBM Cloud Pak for ApplicationsTIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
Cloud Data Integration
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Ratings
TIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
5.8
Ratings
32% below category average
Pre-built connectors00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Connector modification00 Ratings5.50 Ratings
Support for real-time and batch integration00 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Data quality services00 Ratings5.50 Ratings
Data security features00 Ratings2.70 Ratings
Monitoring console00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
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User Ratings
IBM Cloud Pak for ApplicationsTIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
Likelihood to Recommend
7.2
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8.9
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Likelihood to Renew
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1.0
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Usability
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4.5
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Availability
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8.9
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Performance
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7.2
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Support Rating
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7.3
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In-Person Training
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1.3
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Online Training
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5.6
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Implementation Rating
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10.0
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Configurability
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7.3
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Ease of integration
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7.3
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Product Scalability
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7.2
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Vendor post-sale
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7.3
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7.3
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User Testimonials
IBM Cloud Pak for ApplicationsTIBCO Integration (including BusinessWorks and Flogo)
Likelihood to Recommend
IBM Cloud Pak for Applications is clearly suitable for modernizing the WebSphere runtime from the heavy, complex and expensive WAS-ND, and to a lesser extent WAS-base, to the super simple, fast and lightweight WebSphere Liberty runtime. I guarantee, once you start using Liberty you'll never look back. Enough cannot be said about how awesome Transformation Advisor is. The output analysis it produces, along with the migration plan and associated artifacts, considerably simplifies both the decision-making process surrounding modernization and subsequent implementation. Without TA we would've made bad decisions by blindly picking unsuitable apps for moving from WAS to Liberty. Using the results from TA we've excluded multiple WAS apps from our immediate plans to migrate to Liberty, saving time and effort that probably would have resulted in a failed migration. We recently used Transformation Advisor to help us successfully migrate an app from Tomcat to WebSphere Liberty. We needed to make some changes to the Tomcat app, but TA helped highlight these required changes. Without TA I'm not sure we would have succeeded.
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Well suited for duplicating operational processes and transforming data. It's less suited for querying and updating medium to large datasets. It is possible our connection wasn't configured correctly, and the speed could be improved. However, it still takes a long time to update mass changes.
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Pros
  • WebSphere Liberty for lighter footprint
  • Transformation Advisor
  • Mono2Micro
  • Customer can benefit from their investment by optimizing license offerings in IBM Cloud Pak for Applications
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  • Scribe can dependably map or sync data between systems. When you have different systems being used by many departments, this is the tool to keep the data in-sync!
  • API's are widely used by many applications and companies. Tibco Cloud Integration allows companies to integrate data from an older ERP system with a newer system using an API.
  • Tibco provides the flexibility for business users, developers and anyone in-between to understand where data is moving within their organization.
  • One example of flexibility of the solution is easily manipulating data on the fly.
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Cons
  • While the licensing is considerably simplified than it used to be, I still find it somewhat confusing. For example, WebSphere Liberty Core has an 8:1 VPC ratio. This is clear when dealing with VMs but it is still not clear to me as to whether we get an 8:1 ratio when running on OpenShift or whether we need to purchase additional OpenShift licenses to support running WebSphere Liberty Core in OpenShift.
  • Not so much related to IBM Cloud Pak for Applications, but while Transformation Advisor is an indispensable tool to help modernize to the WebSphere Liberty runtime, I wish we could run it against WebSphere Liberty itself. The reason being, we are now using TA as a single repository for our configurations. TA also highlights many potential issues when migrating to Liberty; these issues may also be applicable for apps already running in Liberty, we just don't know it yet.
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  • Missing functionality: We like to run all the files available in the FTP when clicking the run button. Right now, we have to click the run button several times (or have multiple solutions) in order to run files from our FTP site one at a time.
  • Generating column fields every time a file changes from the source in the FTP is very tedious. Working in integrations makes me have to go back and forth a lot of the time, and doing this is incredibly annoying.
  • The security is horrendous. We installed an on-premise agent on the customer side, but we don't want them even touching the ETL tool at all. The only knowledge we are fine with knowing and being able to see is that they installed the agent, not the solutions themselves.
  • Our company's connector would have to point to the dataset name rather than dataset ID. It was very frustrating because we change the dataset name a lot, and then we'd have to repoint it.
  • It's very difficult to monitor the different integrations that go on because there isn't a consolidated dashboard.
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Likelihood to Renew
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The project which required the Scribe tool has been cancelled due to business direction change. Unless another project requiring Scribe comes up, it will likely not be renewed. Companies are always looking for cost savings though and Scribe is less expensive than competitors, so you never know.
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Usability
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The maps are fairly straightforward to create and use. The logical expressions and other units in the mapmaking process are straightforward, functional and understandable. It makes life much easier when you know you can figure out a way to make an integration work because of the toolset and commands that are available.
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Reliability and Availability
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We have not had any issues with TIBCO not being available when needed. I have only had to contact support less than 5 times in about 5 year time frame due to syncing issues or a problem with the agent. Support is very quick to respond as well as very helpful.
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Performance
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TIBCO Cloud Integration (including BusinessWorks and Scribe)'s performance of the user interface are not to be complained about. The user interface is swift and is a pleasant user experience. The replication jobs take some time to finish but that is because the number of records to be updated/created on a daily basis is quite big. I did split up the jobs between highrunners (entities with a lot of changes) I update on a daily basis and quite stable entities that I update weekly. That solved my issue of a way to long replication.
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Support Rating
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For creating new process, you have lots of palettes to do every develop you need. For created process it is easy to understand even if you have ever seen before it. You can analyze your process in all their detail. User Experience is positive for beginner and expertise people. Just debug mode is still raw, but better in TIBCO BusinessWorks 6.x than TIBCO BusinessWorks 5.x .
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In-Person Training
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Before using TIBCO Businessworks, I participated an official training with a specialized instructor. In this training, I learned what I needed to know to build some applications or web services and how to manage its. It was been very important to me. I understood many technical stuff to familiarize with this powerful platform. I can advice TIBCO Educational Services.
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Online Training
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really good resources
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Implementation Rating
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If we don't design the process correctly, it can do lot of damage (like deleting files or data etc.,) and might assume product issue rather than a design flaw. So it is always recommended to do thorough unit testing , QA and a design review even for a small process to avoid major problems.
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Alternatives Considered
Our customer mission-critical core banking applications like Temenos T24 run on best of the breed IBM WebSphere Application Server which is java based-application server. IBM has kept up the promise of providing support, fixpack, and any update. As far as I know, at least by 2030, IBM is committed to continue with WHE which gives customers confidence in their current investments.
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Provide technical support: Respond to customer inquiries and issues related to TIBCO software products via phone, email, or support tickets. Troubleshoot and resolve technical problems to ensure customer satisfaction. Testing and validation: Assist customers in testing and validating TIBCO integrations, configurations, and deployments. Problem diagnosis and resolution: Analyze and diagnose complex technical issues reported by customers. Collaborate with customers and internal teams to identify root causes and provide effective solutions.Continuous improvement: Identify opportunities for process improvements, automation, and efficiency gains within the support function. Collaborate with cross-functional teams to implement enhancements and drive customer satisfaction.
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Scalability
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Rating is based on the features provided which are very good and useful. Scalability is very good and data workloads can be managed with less replication, lower costs, and greater agility making the overall use of the tool very smooth. So far experience is great, it is easy to understand and implement.
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Return on Investment
  • Increased Development Efficiency
  • Cost Reduction in Infrastructure Management
  • Enhanced Application Performance and Reliability
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  • Used TIBCO for migration of our data for our learning management system.
  • TIBCO, succesful Content ,data migration(courses, classes, registrations, transcripts etc.) ,User migration(Internal users and Partner migration)and Report migration
  • Integrations with different applications Workday,Single Sign-On,CertTracker,Okta,Partner contact sync and Questionmark is succesful.
  • LOD: Learn on demand is a third party vendor application where all Virtual classes are delivered by the vendor application. Learning management system sends the class and registration events to learn on demand via real time web service call through TIBCO
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