Infor VISUAL vs. M1

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Infor VISUAL
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
Infor VISUAL is an ERP software focused on manufacturing companies with business intelligence, planning and scheduling, and pricing, quoting, and estimating capabilities, among others.N/A
M1
Score 7.1 out of 10
N/A
M1, from ECI Software Solutions headquartered in Ft. Worth, is an all-in-one manufacturing ERP software solution, built for small and medium-sized discrete manufacturers.N/A
Pricing
Infor VISUALM1
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Infor VISUALM1
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Infor VISUALM1
Considered Both Products
Infor VISUAL
Chose Infor VISUAL
Based on use cases and implementation. Scaling and scheduling meet CTO and ETO.
Chose Infor VISUAL
We unfortunately did not evaluate any other ERP software. VISUAL was a legacy system and we determined that changing systems would be too difficult, and not cost effective. We reached out to our local VISUAL rep who knew how the software functioned, but not how to apply it …
Chose Infor VISUAL
SAP Business One was selected for the China Division for cost and ease of training reasons. It does not have the capabilities required for the main office accounting or product engineering. It also was not available at the time of Visual Manufacturing selection.
Epicor Eclipse …
Chose Infor VISUAL
VTA doesn't even come close to Ascentis in the realm of timekeeping.
Chose Infor VISUAL
In Vendor/Application Selection INFOR ERP rated high in Production Capability and Shop Floor Management. INFOR ERP was weaker in financials. INFOR ERP appears to be strong for retail and order (pick/pack/ship) fulfillment operations. INFOR ERP Management offered aggressive …
M1
Chose M1
We replaced Open Systems with M1 7 years ago. Our Open Systems software seemed to be more user-friendly and was not overburdened by reports and processes that were not needed for daily functions.
Chose M1
M1 is light years ahead in overall cost and proficiency. It allows so much more control and flexibility as compared to its competitors. When choosing M1 we went through many demos and M1 was the only ERP that met our needs and still does. We also control our own data which is a …
Chose M1
M1 is better with the manufacturing side of software whereas Sage 100 is better at the financial side. Which is frustrating that M1 implementation people are not accountants, so they got us up and running but did not do a good job of making sure the GL accounts were setup …
Chose M1
Our customization requirements were not that high and based on a price/cost benefit M1 was the winner. SAP was considered but the upfront costs and challenging learning curve together with the lack of flexibility in the SAP HANA public cloud version made the M1 choice more …
Chose M1
We considered several other option but M1 was presented as the most flexible and robust option that could handle our custom manufacturing.
Chose M1
We looked at a couple of other software programs, but none of them could compare to M1 and the ease of using the software.
Chose M1
M1 does a good job of being able to handle our requirements. Some of our assemblies and sub-assemblies require a significant amount of detail and different levels in order to complete - and M1 handles that. Some of the other products I've used, or implemented else where fall …
Chose M1
This has been very similar to SYSPRO bit the team at ECI has been far more helpful.
Features
Infor VISUALM1
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
1.0
Ratings
153% below category average
M1
7.0
Ratings
8% below category average
API for custom integration1.00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Plug-ins00 Ratings6.50 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
9.0
Ratings
10% above category average
M1
8.1
Ratings
1% below category average
Single sign-on capability9.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Role-based user permissions9.00 Ratings7.10 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
4.0
Ratings
57% below category average
M1
6.5
Ratings
10% below category average
Dashboards8.00 Ratings6.60 Ratings
Standard reports2.00 Ratings6.40 Ratings
Custom reports2.00 Ratings6.60 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
7.4
Ratings
4% below category average
M1
6.9
Ratings
11% below category average
Accounts payable9.00 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Accounts receivable9.00 Ratings6.90 Ratings
Global Financial Support10.00 Ratings5.30 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers8.00 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations10.00 Ratings6.50 Ratings
Configurable Accounting7.00 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Standardized Processes9.00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
8.0
Ratings
1% above category average
M1
7.0
Ratings
12% below category average
Inventory tracking6.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Automatic reordering7.00 Ratings6.50 Ratings
Location management10.00 Ratings7.10 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
9.7
Ratings
21% above category average
M1
7.3
Ratings
7% below category average
Pricing10.00 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Order entry10.00 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Cost of goods sold10.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Order Orchestration10.00 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Credit card processing00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
8.6
Ratings
14% above category average
M1
6.5
Ratings
14% below category average
Billing Management8.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management10.00 Ratings6.80 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management10.00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting10.00 Ratings5.00 Ratings
Period Close9.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
7.2
Ratings
6% below category average
M1
-
Ratings
Project Costing5.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost Capture8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
3.2
Ratings
79% below category average
M1
6.6
Ratings
12% below category average
Production Process Design2.00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Production Management5.00 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Configuration Management5.00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Work Execution2.00 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs2.00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
2.0
Ratings
112% below category average
M1
5.6
Ratings
24% below category average
Inventory Planning2.00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Forecasting00 Ratings4.70 Ratings
Performance Monitoring00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
2.0
Ratings
112% below category average
M1
4.4
Ratings
47% below category average
Product Master Data Management2.00 Ratings4.00 Ratings
Proposal Management00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
M1
5.7
Ratings
23% below category average
Pay calculation00 Ratings5.30 Ratings
Benefit plan administration00 Ratings4.60 Ratings
Direct deposit files00 Ratings7.10 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
3.0
Ratings
78% below category average
M1
5.2
Ratings
28% below category average
Project Planning and Scheduling00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers00 Ratings5.40 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality00 Ratings4.60 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
M1
2.7
Ratings
93% below category average
Award Lifecycle Management00 Ratings2.70 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
M1
6.3
Ratings
10% below category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared00 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Contract Authoring00 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Contract Repository00 Ratings6.30 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Supplier Management00 Ratings6.20 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
M1
4.9
Ratings
28% below category average
Risk Repository00 Ratings6.50 Ratings
Control Management00 Ratings5.90 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments00 Ratings4.80 Ratings
Issue Detection00 Ratings3.80 Ratings
Remediation and Certification00 Ratings3.80 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
M1
4.0
Ratings
50% below category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization00 Ratings2.20 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management00 Ratings2.50 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management00 Ratings4.70 Ratings
Fulfillment Management00 Ratings4.90 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management00 Ratings5.50 Ratings
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Infor VISUALM1
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Score 8.9 out of 10
Infor VISUAL
Infor VISUAL
Score 8.0 out of 10
Enterprises
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Score 9.0 out of 10
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User Ratings
Infor VISUALM1
Likelihood to Recommend
10.0
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7.3
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Likelihood to Renew
8.0
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10.0
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Usability
10.0
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6.4
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Support Rating
9.0
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10.0
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Implementation Rating
2.0
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User Testimonials
Infor VISUALM1
Likelihood to Recommend
The original version of Visual Manufacturing (Lilly Software) was intended for mechanical manufacturing. It was adapted at our facility (we were not the first) to accomodate electronic manufacturing. For electronic manufacturing process control it is not ideal when referencing in-line or custom processes used to build product. For material control it is excellent unless a modification to a standard product is required (and we did this on 60% of product going out the door). The co-product feature that removes material from an assembly requires the creator of the work order to calculate the percentage of cost the removed items are from the completed product. On the business operations side regional tax reports were difficult to extract and an external module to go into the data base and extract that had to be created. The system itself was stable for the most part. Occasional "data collisions" corrupted transactions at times. The accounting procedures in place found them by the end of the month .where they were corrected. For a small business with less formal processes Infor Visual can be used with little training for the operators. If the processes need a higher level of accountability and control the processes can be formalized with workflow scripts to ensure that higher level of control.
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Implementation is by far the weakest link in the ECI/M1 process. Although the tool is powerful, the client is expected to drive the process of learning the tool, planning the meetings with consultants, identifying risks and making mitigation plans, etc. without any samples, guidance or assistance on the part of ECI. The tool is best suited to high volume, standard product manufacturers who build to inventory or to order without much variation. The shop floor routing and time tracking are straightforward if you can master the convoluted Unit Of Measure calculations. The tool is either hosted locally or accessed through Remote Desktop. Shop floor is web enabled but the main desktop for M1 is still a relay which makes connectivity a potential issue. Moving this platform to a truly web hosted environment would substantially improve connectivity and eliminate compatibility issues with Apple products
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Pros
  • Part/BOM libraries
  • Traceability from customer order to work order
  • Job status representation
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  • Manage inventory counts. Good precision on quantities in and out, through shipping, MI, MR, and receipts.
  • Job costing shows great details on labor, operations, and materials to be used. I wished that would do better in outside operations that would return, but we still think it is great.
  • Ability to track changes (changelog), showing all changes that had in a particular place. Such as where, when, and by whom a line item unit price was changed in a PO.
  • Link, traceability, keeping history. If done correctly, it is amazing to keep the history of a part/lot.
  • The amount of user rights/customization is unbelievable. It can be hard to set up in the beginning, but it is great that you can give some very specific access to a user, and it is not (in general) as a package.
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Cons
  • At times a "shadow part" is necessary in the manufacturing process. This shadow part does not require an inventory transaction but is made a as a separate process - sometimes out of sequence to the general process flow. Infor Visual ver 6.3.5 does not have that capability.
  • When generating forms for business and manufacturing operations Infor Visual ver 6.3.5 has a limited number of options. To change or add forms requires an unsupported editor. When the stock and custom options are depleted an outside programming module is required as well as programmers to develop the forms.
  • While free software upgrades to the main operations modules have been part of the maintenance agreement. One upgrade required database and hardware support not justifiable for the current business model. The system was frozen at the current version at that time.
  • There is no easy way to differentiate between engineering documentation and production documentation.
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  • Some of the functions are pretty detailed - and so they take a while to generate screens and pages in reports.
  • We actually use it for 2 companies we own - and it would be nice if the inter company communication was a little smoother. It's hard to share some data, and not everything is possible to be shared.
  • Customized reports need to backed up before any updates to M1 or they're lost. It seems M1 overwrites the report folders everytime you run an update - so you have to keep track of what you've changed in Crystal Reports and restore it.
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Likelihood to Renew
Good Technical and Customer Support during and after implementation tasks. Good Project Plan and Management support for implementation and post implementation. Financial functionality could be more comprehensive particularly with Budgeting and Cash Management. Inventory Management capability was adequate but could be more comprehensive as well. "Out of the Box" functionality was adequate but requested add-ons and enhancements seemed to be a bit pricey.
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Usability
Because of use cases and easy implementation and the vertical and horizontal scaling.
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Because it would be helpful if ECI would provide better documentation, communication and workflows to understand how each field interacts within the system and how each of those touch other areas within M1. It would also be useful if ECI would provide prescheduled training for how to customize things with M1 through Design Studio
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Support Rating
As we have seen the live environment and the use cases where we implement.
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Support has been great and timely
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Implementation Rating
Could have used more hands-on approach. There are multiple webinars and information sessions but until you actually use the system, these are not very helpful.
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Alternatives Considered
We unfortunately did not evaluate any other ERP software. VISUAL was a legacy system and we determined that changing systems would be too difficult, and not cost effective. We reached out to our local VISUAL rep who knew how the software functioned, but not how to apply it more appropriately to our business model, so we continued on with what we had rather than looking elsewhere.
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Our customization requirements were not that high and based on a price/cost benefit M1 was the winner. SAP was considered but the upfront costs and challenging learning curve together with the lack of flexibility in the SAP HANA public cloud version made the M1 choice more natural. SAP Services is usually more expensive compared to M1.
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Return on Investment
  • Good Billing provided
  • Easy to implement and use
  • scales vertical and horizontal
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  • Time savings having to only enter certain information once and have it follow through the entire order process from quote to cash
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