Epicor HCM (discontinued) vs. Paylocity

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
Score 9.6 out of 10
N/A
Epicor HCM supplied human resource management system (HRMS) capabilities, but Epicor has stopped offering this functionality and company's HR applications are no longer available.N/A
Paylocity
Score 8.3 out of 10
N/A
Paylocity provides 24/7 access to your online payroll and human resource data management. Paylocity offers highly customizable payroll functionality, as well as HR, benefits administration, and time and talent management programs.N/A
Pricing
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Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paylocity
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paylocity
Features
Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paylocity
Human Resource Management
Comparison of Human Resource Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
24% above category average
Paylocity
7.9
Ratings
1% above category average
Employee demographic data10.00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Employment history10.00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Job profiles and administration10.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Workflow for transfers, promotions, pay raises, etc.10.00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Organizational charting10.00 Ratings7.20 Ratings
Organization and location management10.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Compliance data (COBRA, OSHA, etc.)10.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
23% above category average
Paylocity
8.1
Ratings
2% above category average
Pay calculation10.00 Ratings8.60 Ratings
Support for external payroll vendors10.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Off-cycle/On-Demand payment10.00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Benefit plan administration10.00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Direct deposit files10.00 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Salary revision and increment management10.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Reimbursement management10.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Leave and Attendance Management
Comparison of Leave and Attendance Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
9.0
Ratings
12% above category average
Paylocity
7.5
Ratings
6% below category average
Approval workflow10.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Balance details8.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Annual carry-forward and encashment9.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Employee Self Service
Comparison of Employee Self Service features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
9.8
Ratings
19% above category average
Paylocity
8.5
Ratings
5% above category average
View and generate pay and benefit information9.00 Ratings8.60 Ratings
Update personal information10.00 Ratings8.80 Ratings
View company policy documentation10.00 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Employee recognition10.00 Ratings8.30 Ratings
View job history10.00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Asset Management
Comparison of Asset Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
21% above category average
Paylocity
7.1
Ratings
13% below category average
Tracking of all physical assets10.00 Ratings7.10 Ratings
HR Reporting
Comparison of HR Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
7.0
Ratings
7% below category average
Paylocity
7.4
Ratings
1% below category average
Report builder8.00 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Pre-built reports6.00 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Ability to combine HR data with external data7.00 Ratings7.30 Ratings
Onboarding
Comparison of Onboarding features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
23% above category average
Paylocity
8.3
Ratings
5% above category average
New hire portal10.00 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Manager tracking tools10.00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Performance and Goals
Comparison of Performance and Goals features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
23% above category average
Paylocity
7.7
Ratings
3% below category average
Corporate goal setting10.00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Individual goal setting10.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Line-of sight-visibility10.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Performance tracking10.00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Performance Management
Comparison of Performance Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
9.2
Ratings
16% above category average
Paylocity
7.5
Ratings
4% below category average
Performance plans10.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Performance improvement plans10.00 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Review status tracking10.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Review reminders7.00 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Multiple review frequency9.00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Succession Planning
Comparison of Succession Planning features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
25% above category average
Paylocity
7.2
Ratings
8% below category average
Create succession plans/pools10.00 Ratings6.60 Ratings
Candidate ranking10.00 Ratings7.10 Ratings
Candidate search10.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Candidate development10.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Recruiting / ATS
Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of Product A and Product B
Epicor HCM (discontinued)
10.0
Ratings
26% above category average
Paylocity
8.0
Ratings
3% above category average
Job Requisition Management10.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Company Website Posting10.00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Publish to Social Media10.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Job Search Site Posting10.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Duplicate Candidate Prevention10.00 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Applicant Tracking10.00 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Notifications and Alerts10.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
User Ratings
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Likelihood to Recommend
9.0
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8.5
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Likelihood to Renew
10.0
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9.1
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Usability
7.0
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9.0
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Availability
9.0
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9.8
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Performance
9.0
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9.6
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Support Rating
1.0
(0 ratings)
7.9
(0 ratings)
In-Person Training
10.0
(0 ratings)
8.4
(0 ratings)
Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
7.7
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
7.1
(0 ratings)
8.1
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Configurability
-
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7.9
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Ease of integration
-
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8.1
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Product Scalability
8.6
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9.4
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Vendor post-sale
10.0
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8.4
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Vendor pre-sale
10.0
(0 ratings)
8.8
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor HCM (discontinued)Paylocity
Likelihood to Recommend
I could not recommend this system to anyone. If you do decide to go with this system, depending on organization size, you'll need at least one dedicated IT person with SQL/Report-builder experience to manage the system and reporting, as well as another full-time HR member to manage other administrative set-up and deal with the many, many, user support issues that will crop up. I'm shocked at the number of positive reviews for this product. A couple of them reiterate the same thing such as each of use (which is completely untrue) and many fields/tables for data storage, which leads me to believe that they're from Epicor or Epicor consultants
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Paylocity appears to be well-suited for startups to large businesses. As with any product, finding the right price point for the services provided is the challenge. Always remember that one small company that would really appreciate the "benefits essentials" or some other part of the platform but can't afford them right now, may be the ones to get you that large company through word of mouth...IF they had been able to experience that part of the product and refer it to others.
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Pros
  • Timesheets show everything that time has been charged to in a quick glance. There is a lot of information displayed onscreen and is very easy to decipher.
  • Employees charge their time on a well-designed front end program, and data is gleaned from that and dispersed into the various timekeeping and expense tracking modules.
  • The abilities to charge time to direct, indirect and downtime are all valuable- see where time is being spent and use it as a coaching tool.
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  • Obviously, time and labor and payroll. It's time and labor time sheets are so easy, so easy for employees. We have been for many years a company that's allowed our employees to self-report that was easy to set up. California is a tough company or tough state to work in, so there's been a lot of restrictions and Paylocity has really helped us establish the rules and regulations and make sure we're compliant. We've recently moved to time clocks, so something that we had to do and that was a really easy transition to do and it's going very well. And also payroll. Payroll is so easy to run, so it's two good systems that I think have been really great.
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Cons
  • Compliance is one area that needs further attention. For example in candidate self-service, the admin and managers can see the candidate's demographic information as part of their application, which shouldn't happen. If an internal candidate applies for a job, the hiring manager automatically gets access to that employee's record just like their regular manager.
  • On the timesheets module, there are issues with CA specific OT calculation rules on a bi-weekly payroll, where it does not calculate OT for time worked in excess of 5 consecutive days. Also, the application has random (but rare) occurrences where it resets the time zone to the server time zone for users that clock-in/ out.
  • Customizations that require professional services contracts can be somewhat difficult in terms of getting resources assigned. When upgrading the system to a new version, the admin has to conduct its own testing, including all and any customizations made to the system and then work with Epicor on resolving any issues.
  • Customer Support structure could be better. Currently there is no official filtering of issues and expected response time for different kinds of issues, except for system access. When offering payroll and time keeping, the customer support should reflect reduced time for resolution of issues in these time sensitive areas.
  • User training. Epicor HCM offers no free training, aside from webinars on new version releases. While they do offer training sessions, users have to pay for it. From a customer perspective this is difficult to accept. You pay to purchase the system/ module, but if you want to learn how to use it, you have to pay again.
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  • We have had lots of year end issues specifically with Partners W2's.
  • We had an accrual issue that was causing 2 additional vacation/sick accruals per year.
  • When updating accruals- the paperwork to do so is confusing at times. I feel there is little support to assist you in filling the paperwork correctly to reflect what you need the accrual to actually do.
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Likelihood to Renew
I just recently lost my job after 16 years, and purposely sought out a position where I could continue to work with HCM. I am now in a similar role to what I was in before, and can continue the same type of work and enhancements that I did at my other company.
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We most likely will because we are learning how to use it better all the time. It does integrate with our Advanced Benefits. But the customer service is not responsive when needing help. It almost always requires several contacts to get anywhere, and the contacts can be several days apart. Once you actually get to TALK to someone, things are usually resolved fairly quickly, but their email system is not efficient. I get half answers and they close the ticket! But once I can get to someone, it is almost always great service. Very hard to get someone though.
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Usability
Where it's good: Epicor HCM at a high level has a straight-forward interface for navigating to the main content sections at either the employee or HR administrator level. The interfaces are consistent throughout the application, and after a brief learning curve, one can navigate through the remainder of the interface pages in any content area without too much difficulty. HCM also has great tools for making sure the analysis of data is available and accessible to non-programmer personnel. Where it struggles: One thing working against the usability of the HCM product is the overuse of the row-selection scheme for all many to many relationships. HCM uses a "select the row from the left frame" and then "enter data corresponding to this row in the right frame" scheme for most of its data entry components. One example of overuse is the employee address entry. During the first setup of an employee or during a candidate's application, HCM allows the user to specify multiple addresses. While this functionality is desired for long-term storage, an option doesn't exist to forgo this interface type for quick initial entry for the primary use case (one address per employee). This is one example, but is particularly visible when a candidate must also bridge the learning curve.
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Staff hasn't had that many glitches and they don't come with as many problems as we had with, we had a DP before. And there will always be issues sometimes with time clocks, time, time we clocking in and stuff. We've really seen downsides with that. That staff is not complaining as much.
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Reliability and Availability
The product was always available.
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Over the last 3 years, we've only had one major service issue that rendered Airbase unusable for us for about 24 hours. That said, they navigated the SVB bank crisis very well and made sure funds were available during that time.
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Performance
The product performs well. As with any software there are bugs and system enhancements needed, but there are channels in place to let Epicor know what they are so they can add to future versions. Open Enrollment and Salary Planning can be a bit slow at times.
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We had some minor hiccups throughout the year but they have all been fixable. Paylocity integrates well with our 401k provider, Principal, and our benefits, OneDigital. It makes it simple to house everything and have it all connected. It doesn't slow anything down to have Principal integrated. It makes it more efficient
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Support Rating
The customer support is terrible. When we open cases, it takes weeks to get the development team to have the first look at the case. If development is required, their team commits on a delivery date and up to now—those dates were never respected. They don't do any follow up. Customer service is very bad. When we request an update on the development progress, nobody answers!
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I really appreciate that we are assigned a support manager. That person is very familiar with our set up, our needs and our history. However, I've spoken to others on the support team and have had very positive interactions and get the help needed.
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In-Person Training
We had someone from Epicor come on site to do training, and we "shared" our trainer with another company who was also doing the same major upgrade. It was nice to have another company there so we could ask each other (and the trainer) questions. This allowed for more meaningful discussions during training.
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I didn't have in-person training, but I'm sure it was just as great as any other training/assistance Paylocity provides. Paylocity customer service is always available. You never have to be on hold and their answers are always accurate and timely. Documents in the help section are helpful as well. My in-person training was conducted y one of our employees who was involved in the initial set-up and training of all employees. She was excellent.
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Online Training
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The training was live online, but was with a group of other companies. We did not receive any personalized training with our team. Whenever we would ask for training, we would be sent a peak article link or a video. It felt like the reps we dealt with didn't know the answer to the questions.
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Implementation Rating
As stated earlier, you won't find all of the problems and things that you would like to improve on until you implement. After go-live, you then will have a long period of adjustment as you get the data and processes to work the way that you really want them to.
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We were handed off to multiple implementation people, some quit, one went on leave, one left suddenly, one was transfered to a diff dept...all causing a significant amount of disruption for our team. Many had conflicting info on how to properly set things up...hence a complete mess was left for us to figure out
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Alternatives Considered
After a failed implementation with Open4, we needed a solution that was more usable with our end-users. The outdated system provided by one of ADP's products needed to be replaced. We chose Epicor HCM because we were enticed by the functionality it provided and ease of use, as well as its ability to be integrated with Epicor ERP, a product which we had owned and used for several years.
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I would say that Paylocity is a significant upgrade from my experience with Paycor. I would say that it's a similar product to Paycom. The one thing I liked, Paycom did pay the PTOA little bit differently. It was in real time, but Paycom did not value us as a customer and they lost us due the pricing. And then they've tried to come back and they've tried to match. They have tried to match Paylocity pricing, but we chose not to go back because we're happy with Paylocity and I'm not going to make a huge move like that if I'm happy where I am.
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Scalability
Performance is not noticeably impacted by adding more users. Microsoft IIS and SQL are Epicor HCM's underlying technology and have proven reliability. In addition, IS staff are easy to find that know these technologies.
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We have gone from a medium sized company to a larger company with no issues whatsoever with Paylocity being able to keep up or do what we need it to do for the size of our needs. In fact, it does more than we even use at this juncture
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Return on Investment
  • Report deadlines must always be extended as my organization's HR team must manually comb through the data for inaccuracies.
  • Reports generated lack integrity. For example, I sent a report to a large donor and the report eliminated nearly 100 employees unbeknownst to my department.
  • My organization is still waiting to see the ROI on Epicor. It hasn't been able to meet our basic needs.
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  • All of the above, the data is readily available so that we can actually see what our turnover ratio is or the data that we need to make decisions. So I think overall it made our process a bit more seamless. There are training that's readily available that we can deploy to our employees as opposed to creating it and it's customizable so we can add things to it that is specific to our organization and just build on to what's already there.
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ScreenShots

Paylocity Screenshots

Screenshot of a view of real-time employee data and performance metrics used to uncover and analyze trends. This creates an impactful understanding of the business, increase retention, understand labor costs, and plan for changes.Screenshot of where to automate manual processes with Paylocity's self-serve automation engine, Workflows. Users can implement routines for time-consuming manual tasks.Screenshot of where to manage and comply with employment law. Paylocity's HR Compliance solution helps users to stay on track and view important employee compliance items, from Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO), healthcare, and compensation.Screenshot of how Paylocity Recruiting can automate hiring processes. amplify outreach, showcase a company's culture, and build stronger candidate connections to swiftly fill positions.Screenshot of recognition and rewards in Paylocity.