Elasticsearch vs. Lucidworks Platform

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Elasticsearch
Score 8.7 out of 10
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Elasticsearch is an enterprise search tool from Elastic in Mountain View, California.
$16
per month
Lucidworks Platform
Score 10.0 out of 10
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Lucidworks provides total AI solutions that power search and discovery for customers and employees. Lucidworks integrates the latest generative AI models with a decade of proven search expertise to create a truly personalized digital experience for users.N/A
Pricing
ElasticsearchLucidworks Platform
Editions & Modules
Standard
$16.00
per month
Gold
$19.00
per month
Platinum
$22.00
per month
Enterprise
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
ElasticsearchLucidworks Platform
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Community Pulse
ElasticsearchLucidworks Platform
User Ratings
ElasticsearchLucidworks Platform
Likelihood to Recommend
9.0
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9.1
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Likelihood to Renew
10.0
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Usability
10.0
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9.1
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Support Rating
7.8
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9.1
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Implementation Rating
9.0
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User Testimonials
ElasticsearchLucidworks Platform
Likelihood to Recommend
Elasticsearch is really well suited for searching text (Natural Language Processing) and you can fine tune the searches and scoring very well. I like the ability to find Significant Terms in the Index, where you can find aggregations that are really relevant to a specific search. It also allows for queries to lead to new queries via aggregations which is great for navigating your data. It is less suited to doing more complex aggregations where slices of data are required to be processing using guassian normalizations. And doing searches which join different documents is very very hard, and requires serious thought on how to denormalize data.
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Lucidworks Fusion is best suited for information retrieval applications to search structured or unstructured data. It offers variety of features to help users find contents they are looking for. For Chatbot like applications, Fusion can be used for powering the backend search, but dialog manager is not supported by this product
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Pros
  • Super-fast search on millions of documents. We've got over 2 billion documents in our index and the retrieve speeds are still in the < 1-second range.
  • Analytics on top of your search. If you organize your data appropriately, Elasticsearch can serve as a distributed OLAP system
  • Elasticsearch is great for geographic data as well, including searching and filtering with geojson, and a variety of geospatial algorithms.
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  • Signals feature to boost search results helps search relevancy
  • Business Rules feature for tuning search results
  • Query pipeline design gives great flexibility in application development
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Cons
  • Setting Java memory thresholds can be a pain for those not accustomed to things like Eden Space & Old Generation which can lead to over allocation, or more likely, under allocation. Apache Solr had a similar issue. It would be nice if the program would take an extra step and dogfood it's own advice by analyzing the system & processes to return a solid recommendation for that configuration. The proper configuration information is outlined in the documentation, it would be nice if that was automated.
  • The only health check that ElasticSearch reports back is a "red" status without any real solid information about what is going on, though its usually memory thresholds or disk I/O. I am currently on ElasticSearch 1.5 so that may have changed for newer versions. When the status goes "red", I as the administrator of the software, feel like I lose control of whats going on which should rarely happen. Something more verbose would eliminate that.
  • This is more of a critique of the ElasticStack in general. The whole top to bottom stack is starting to get feature creep with things that are better suited in other software and increasing the barrier for entry for people to get started with setting up a robust logging infrastructure. ElasticSearch as a storage search engine, is pretty streamlined, but I can see that the tools that comprise the ELK Stack are going to require a certification with constant study at some point. During major release for Logstash a while back, it literally took a month to learn a new language because Elastic completely changed the syntax. For a medium sized organization of only a couple of admins, that is a pretty high bar where time is money. They really should work on refining/automating the tools & search engine they have, instead of shoehorning/changing things on to an already rock solid foundation.
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  • Documentation can be improved
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Likelihood to Renew
We're pretty heavily invested in ElasticSearch at this point, and there aren't any obvious negatives that would make us reconsider this decision.
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Usability
To get started with Elasticsearch, you don't have to get very involved in configuring what really is an incredibly complex system under the hood. You simply install the package, run the service, and you're immediately able to begin using it. You don't need to learn any sort of query language to add data to Elasticsearch or perform some basic searching. If you're used to any sort of RESTful API, getting started with Elasticsearch is a breeze. If you've never interacted with a RESTful API directly, the journey may be a little more bumpy. Overall, though, it's incredibly simple to use for what it's doing under the covers.
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It is incredibly intuitive and so easy to use that business people can now complete functions that used to be limited to software developers only.
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Support Rating
We've only used it as an opensource tooling. We did not purchase any additional support to roll out the elasticsearch software. When rolling out the application on our platform we've used the documentation which was available online. During our test phases we did not experience any bugs or issues so we did not rely on support at all.
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It has continued to improve over the years.
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Implementation Rating
Do not mix data and master roles. Dedicate at least 3 nodes just for Master
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Alternatives Considered
Elasticsearch is the most well-known and supported free data platform that we identified. We are taking advantage of community knowledge and practices. In terms of flexibility and breadth of use cases no other competitor came close to Elasticsearch. We've tried Solr in the past be we encountered issues which were deal-breaking for us. MongoDB - it just did not pass our evaluation parameters as a main data platform. We still use it for smaller purposes, though.
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We looked at several popular Enterprise Search applications 5 years ago which I wish to leave unnamed. We found Lucidworks to the the most cost-effective alternative that met all of our needs.
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Return on Investment
  • I am not in finance and I suspect even if I was this would be hard to measure. But for sure, Elasticsearch has enabled us to have the most flexible data model in the industry for our customer's data, and in doing so we have attracted many many technical customers and got much of their $$$.
  • One problem with Elasticsearch is that because it runs on the JVM, there can be some stop-the-world JVM garbage collections happening that can take down nodes and reduce indexing speed. The solution for that tends to be "let's just upgrade the CPU on that machine". And before you know it you are paying $$$ because this'll happen with 40+ machines.
  • On the other hand, I do think that ES is more efficient than other systems and so it requires fewer nodes to keep it highly tolerant and available, so we probably saved some money that way.
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  • Allowed us to move software developers from enterprise search to other customer focused applications due to built in signals processing and related popularity boosting out of the box.
  • Enabled business experts to work directly with Fusion to influence search results and not be so dependent on developers.
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